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    Granholm promised not to raise taxes in TV ad TOO!


    By Nick, Section Multimedia
    Posted on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 11:37:51 AM EST

    Update [2007-10-8 14:33:15 by Nick]:Dick DeVos was on Beckmann this morning talking about the tax hike issue among others and they've posted it online HERE.

    Radio interviews aren't the only thing Governor Granholm is trying to silence these days.  It took a little digging but I finally found it.  

    Through this entire Democrat tax-hike spectacle there was a voice in my head saying "didn't the Governor promise not to raise our taxes in a TV ad too?!"

    So I started looking last week all over the old w w w, far and wide across the internets and deep into the depths of the youtubes.  But I just couldn't find it.  It had been there before but it was gone.  Something had happened to it.  

    Either that or I was losing my mind (a definite possibility still but not the culprit in this particular instance).

    Took a little work but I finally dug it up... a piece the Granholm campaign titled "The Economist" and a piece they don't want you to watch.  So whata re you waiting for... check it out!

    $3 billion in waste?  Where?  State government spending has gone from $38 billion in 2003 (her first year in office) to $41.7 billion in 2006.  

    By the by, the GF/GP numbers that everyone likes to toss around to prove how she really can't control spending in the first place?  $8.8 billion in 2003 to $9.2 billion in 2006.  Just saying.

    A $4 billion budget deficit?  Flat wrong.  We have a balanced budget amendment in the Constitution.  In Michigan we talk all the time about projected deficits but actual real-life budget deficits do not exist in state Government.  They can't.  As a matter of law.

    Those aren't atypical Democrat lies.  She's told those a thousand times and her blind moonbat supporters recite them like scripture.  No, the atypical lie, the big one that she can't escape came at the end of the spot.

    "I won't cut healthcare or schools or make you pay more in taxes so that wealthy corporations can pay less."

    But wait, didn't she just ram through a massive income tax hike?  Isn't she making us pay nearly $800 million more in taxes on that count alone, not to mention another $600 million plus in sales taxes?  And where are the taxes on those wealthy corporations?  Must have missed those.

    Her mom taught her to tell people exactly where she stands.  Her words.  

    Just like these:

    It's no wonder the Governor and her supporters deleted this ad from all of their YouTube accounts a couple weeks ago (go ahead and check... her other campaign ads are still up and running).

    Even less a wonder she tried to censor Frank Beckmann when he called her to the mat for her bold-faced lies late last week.

    < Portrait of a Tax Hiker: Marc Corriveau (D-Northville) | Gary Peters schedules forum, forgetting about CMU-WMU football game >
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    Argh. . . (none / 0) (#1)
    by BlueEyezz on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 01:00:45 PM EST
    This woman infuriates me. I hate her ad the most where it stated her saying that We're "going to be blown away" by her. Yeah, we're being blown away all right. We're losing our jobs AND our taxes are going up.

    :(

    Beckmann had another guest this morning... (none / 0) (#2)
    by Nick on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 02:08:46 PM EST
    DetNews is reporting Granholm's challenger last year, Dick DeVos, was on Beckmann this morning and reminded Frank that he made the same promise the Governor made during that debate.  That he would NOT raise taxes.

    Of course, he didn't break his word.

    But....but....but.... (none / 0) (#3)
    by biff the undertaker on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 02:11:52 PM EST
    "That's not what I meant....I was talking about a different tax.....er, uh, yeah, a different tax....the uh, property, er, uh, no, uh, the death tax, no, uh, provincial sales tax, no....wait, Liz, call YouTube and tell them not to run that spot!  Tell them if they don't pull that add NOW, I'll shut off their access to Michigans internet users. Oh, and tell them I'll add a YouTube user tax if they don't stop NOW......! Uh....Liz, were my lips moving in that ad?!"
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be". Thomas Jefferson
    Your money is my money! (none / 0) (#4)
    by nickburns480 on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 02:23:05 PM EST
    She also is quoted in the paper over the weekend stating that your money is the governments money.  That your hard earned cash is not yours, but Granholms.  Article was in Sundays Freep.

    If you look close at the mole (none / 0) (#6)
    by RushLake on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 02:46:10 PM EST
    on her cheek it looks exactly like Karl Marx.

    If you look close at the mole (none / 0) (#7)
    by RushLake on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 02:47:47 PM EST
    on her cheek it looks exactly like Karl Marx. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The Internationale unites the human race. Rosa Luxembourg had nothing on this chick.

    Other states? (none / 0) (#8)
    by apackof2 on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 06:24:54 PM EST
    "She said even with the higher income tax rate of 4.35% and a 6% sales tax on services, Michigan's taxes are moderate compared with those in other states"

    Do other states have 7.2% unemployment?

    Are other states losing jobs at the speed of light?

    Are other states number one is outbound traffic?

    Do other states have a personal income tax, corporate income tax,sales tax and now a service tax?

    Did other states face a government shut down?

    Is Granholm the govenor of other states?

    I WISH!

     

    Ah...did I hear that right... (none / 0) (#11)
    by RightMacomb on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 09:24:47 PM EST
    She said she would not raise taxes and then give the money to wealthy companies...didnt she give a $400 million tax break to Toyota, the arch nemisis of Michigan's main industry.  And then, she still raised our taxes.

    Spin out (none / 0) (#12)
    by chetly on Tue Oct 09, 2007 at 02:44:52 AM EST
    This one isn't substantively different than the debate quote.  Her spin will be that the ad was about the SBT replacement, and that she wouldn't reduce SBT taxes to make you (non-business folks in liberal speak, although I know many of you-us are small businesses preparing to receive the short-end and lube very soon).  I don't buy the "conditional" explanation or that it only refers to the SBT, but that's going to be her spin out.  The problem is that her campaign rhetoric all intentionally used the language of fiscal conservative values to "triangulate".  So whether it actually said one specific thing or not, it was intended using the subtle art of campaign advertising design, clearly intended to convey an anti-tax sentiment.  Whether she explicitly lied or did not because her words were carefully crafted is not the point -- the theme of the campaign was fundamentally dishonest whether technically a lie or not.


    Chetly Zarko
    Outside Lansing & Oakland Politics
    Taxes (none / 0) (#13)
    by mipt on Tue Oct 09, 2007 at 06:06:35 AM EST
    As the new investment that I will make in the sate of Michigan will come out of my paycheck, starting yesterday, the duplicity of this governor is disgustingly evident.  
    Yeah, she wouldn't raise taxes but she also was talking about a budget with no deficit.  That part was quite hidden in the campaign.  Yeah, the big bad republicans got rid of the SBT so everything is framed around that.  
    Bottom line is this woman gave a false sense of how she was going to steer the state and everytime I see my paycheck stub, I am going to be disgusted. I am a you.  And her liberal uptopia is costing me and my family alot.  

    Learn English (none / 0) (#15)
    by ravenspeake on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 09:02:40 PM EST
    Apparently NONE of you actually LISTENED to the Granholm commercial linked above.. NOWHERE in the ad did she claim she would NOT raise taxes.

    The MESS of state govt is a direct result of 25 years of Reagan/Engler  selfishness and "I got mine" mentality as well as the libertarian-esque attachment to cutting all govt .. if the republicans have their ways, we'd have no museums, state parks, frequent toll roads.

    We'd also have environmental destruction, pollution, and the costs for THESE acts ARE passed on to the citizens of the state..  

    Michigan economy is where it is because of a too heavy reliance on the auto industry in specific and manufacturing in general...

    Nobody likes taxes, but they are our membership fee for being part of the American society, economy and processes...

    Ravenspeake, LEARN HISTORY (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ed Burley on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 11:17:52 PM EST
    Hey, you went to public school, didn't you? It would take that, plus failure to bother reading the founding documents of this country to make yourself look like a total idiot as you have in this post.

    Are you even aware of how many years this country existed without one single welfare payment being made? How about Social Security; do you know when that was enacted into law? Are you aware of the fact that the Declaration of Independence (that's one of our founding documents, in case you are from Lansing or Detroit) says that our unalienable rights, given to us by our Creator, not government, is "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?

    Nowhere in that phrase is there any mention of a guarantee to happiness, or an income, or health care, or education, or a car, or a home, or anything else that morons like you want to steal my money to provide to folks who won't work. What is guaranteed by the Constitution are those "libertarian-esque" ideas like private property rights, the right to keep what you earn, the right to make choices based on your moral values, the right to defend yourself and your property from low-life scum who have been told by the welfare-state that they have a right to your property, etc.

    If you really want to live in GranholmLand, you should move to Cuba. I hear that Michael Moore-on says they have great health care. He'll also guarantee you an income...granted, it'll only be a couple of pennies a day, but hey, who's counting.

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