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    Public Schools in Michigan have $1.7 Billion surplus


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 08:09:03 AM EST

    All of that bellyaching we've heard from the MEA and local ISDs?  Garbage.  Well, not all of it necessarily, but across the state Michigan's public schools currently have $1.7 billion sitting in the bank not being used.  

    This is money that they've fought, complained, argued, yelled and arm-twisted to get.  The same public schools who have been sending letters to parents urging them to support the $3 billion tax hike Jennifer Granholm is pushing.  They don't want to cut services, classrooms, teachers.  

    Turns out they don't have to.  Some districts have more than a 25% surplus themselves!

    The Detroit Free Press has a breakdown of school districts in the tri-county area in south-east Michigan.

    State Rep. Jack Brandenburg wants to do something about it, limiting savings to 15%.  

    Now let me be clear.  I do NOT have a problem with school districts saving a little cash for a rainy day.  In fact, there are times it may be prudent.  Other portions of the state government don't have the same luxury, operating year to year, but that's neither here nor there.  So sure, go ahead, save some cash.

    But please don't come begging on the street with dirt on your face, a messy mop of hair and your palms to the sky crying "alms, alms!"

    Whatever happened to integrity?

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    School Surplus (none / 0) (#1)
    by fisherman163 on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 09:24:54 AM EST
    It would be interested to see the comparison of the school surpluses to the size of the per pupil state foundation grant for each district.  I live in Livingston County where the cost of home has rapidly increased over the last few years (market is cooling now).

    Apparently, our students are worth much less than those in much of the rest of the state - primarily the tri-county area even though we pay the same sales tax as everyone else.  Most of the schools in the county are at the minimum or close to the minimum per pupil foundation grant for the state.  I don't understand the rationale as to why the legislature believes it more expensive to educate a student in Oakland, Macomb and Wayne county than in the rest of the state.  The difference in the grants is enormous as compared with the variations in the cost of living.

    It is definately time to look at bringing some equity to the formula or allow us to get back local control.  I am tired of paying taxes to the state to support the wealthy communities in the tri-county area.  I can atleast stomache helping out those communities that are economically challenged as social welfare but not to the point where their funding is almost twice our own.

    Per Student Funding (none / 0) (#2)
    by Rougman on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 12:28:53 PM EST
    I would be interested in finding a link that would lead me to the information on per-student funding by the state for each school district.

    Could anyone help me out here?

    The screaming of educators and lack of funding for local districts does hit rather close to home for me.  Our local school is struggling with enrollment (being a rural district with businesses closing) and therefore its money from the state is drying up.  And, given what I have seen of spending support, this fair system is severely flawed and decidedly unfair.

    However, a quality education is very much the product of a quality environment and not just funding, and Lansing has very little concern for that learning environment.  

    The state could improve education and save money by enabling school districts to do two very simple things:

    1. remove disruptive students

    2. remove ineffective teachers

    Until the state legislature and administration choose to address that huge elephant sitting in the corner, Michigan education will remain excessively expensive and largely ineffective.


    School Funding (none / 0) (#3)
    by Mark J Muylaert on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 03:03:07 PM EST
    While I understand that paying for the education of our youths is written into our state constitution, I think it is patently unfair to those of us who chose not to have children to have to pay for other peoples kids to go to school.  

    When this country was founded, John Adams addressed this issue in a speech before the second congress.  He said something to the effect that if we were to take this term "general welfare" at it's face value there will come a day when the government pays for the education of all children.

    I do not believe that the founding fathers ever imagined that we would be stealing money from the masses to educate children, and now to educate illegals to boot.

    While being a realist I know we can never turn back the clock and undo all that congress has done.  However, I do believe that we can start demanding that it is the responsibility of the parents to provide for their childrens education and that they shouldn't be sucking those of us who have no children dry in order to accomidate them.

    School Surplus (none / 0) (#4)
    by Quality Weenie on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 12:28:21 PM EST
    Well this news just bunches my panties into a knot.

    I live in the Ply-Canton School district, which has a 10% surplus and the wonderful people in the district just had us vote on a milage increase otherwise very bad things would happen.

    They have a surplus of money but yet they threaten to take away things if they don't get the milage increase?

    Ass-wipes!

    Of course I voted against the increase since I don't have kids so all that money I send them in the form of my taxes is "free" money to them because I will not be using it.

    and what does this teach kids about integrity? (none / 0) (#5)
    by Nick on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 02:41:50 PM EST
    The short answer is "nothing" because it won't get much more press coverage.  Most kids will have no idea that the letters they're carrying home to mom are full of garbage.

    But what is it they teach you in the Marines?  To act when noone's watching the same way you'd act if your drill sgt. had his eye on you?

    Integrity counts.  Even if you don't get caught.

    School Funding (none / 0) (#6)
    by Anonymous Hero on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 03:02:48 PM EST
    I'm tired of the begging...In addition to paying property tax, I'm supposed to feel all warm and fuzzy when I buy a lottery ticket, the proceeds  add (5%) or $600 million/a year to the state public school budget.

    Extra time has been added to our school day so the teachers can spend a couple of Mondays/month (at least in our district) working up new MEAP strategies...did anyone give thought to families having to pony up for extra daycare? We don't have time for physical education, time to teach cursive writing, or adequately develop methods for working math problems yet we want more money.  

    In a state where a mass exodus of residents has been ongoing for several years, one would think the system would learn to get by on less, but instead we continue to feed the bureacracy.

    Normally I don't get geeked about stuff like this but I've had enough of people waving the more money for schools flag, while at the same time, I am bombarded with begging notes that come home from the grade school asking for: paper,pencils, tissues, and other agreed upon school supplies that one of those district purchasing agents should be able to negotiate on behalf of all of us.

    In addition, we use the kids as hucksters to raise money by selling trinkets and trash so they can go on field trips, buy classroom equipment etc. This begging never stops and includes everything from a weekly pickle sale (weird waste of food), the "donate" bags of wrapped candy, only so we can turn around and send quarters to school so the kids can buy the candy back and some of my favorites, planned field trips that'll cost each kid over a $100 to participate in---for which they need to raise the money, this is genius in a state where more than 10% of families live in poverty--what do we do with the kids whose families just can't make it happen, leave them behind?  ...and one last thing, I'm tired of paying extra for a big yellow bus to haul across town for a field trip, work it out internally.

    Quite honestly we don't care how much it costs for the bus to be used during the school day, the teacher should be able to do the math, if they don't have the money in the budget then maybe kids will have to sit in their seats and study instead of leaving school grounds for a hiatus to a park, zoo, landfill, or whatever the attraction is today.    

    Show me the money?

    budget (none / 0) (#7)
    by Cheetorbolt on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 11:04:04 PM EST
    Where's the integrity?

             It isn't there!
    What I've heard often is that the local education sysytem is near death by lack of money. Guess I was lied to 'bout that. Or I was told by misinformed people. Yet somewhere along the line the school system is being deceptive.

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