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    House preparing tax-hike vote while DC Dems get 15% approval --AND-- Joint primary update


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:38:43 AM EST

    Looks like we've got another good news bad news situation on the budget in the news here this morning.  The Detroit Free Press is reporting this morning that budget negotiations might actually be getting somewhere, so I suppose that's good news.  

    It appears all that needed to happen was for Mark "The Liar" Schauer to leave the country and stop poisoning the well while the governor stepped aside to start packing for her own European vacation and voila, progress.

    But I'm afraid that's where the good news ends.  If the tax-happy main-stream-media is any indication some sort of tax increase is going to be a part of the "solution," as it were.  While the public rhetoric from the left continues to be "taxes taxes taxes," somewhere on the order of $2 billion (with a B) something much more modest seems to be shaping up in Lansing.  

    With the Democrats holding a six vote majority in the House they've been moving budget bills through the Appropriations Committee that almost literally burn money.  Through ten of seventeen budget bills they've consumed every last GF/GP dollar the state's expecting for FY2008.  Meaning they're planning on spending a heck of a lot more that even they'd indicated.  

    And they've got the votes to raise taxes to fund their pet special interest programs.  The Senate's job is to hold the line.  And to hold it hard and fast.  No new taxes.  No new spending.  Cut, reform, transform, hold departments accountable, prevent chronic overspending, do things differently, reject the status quo.

    The sad reality is the tax-and-spenders in the Democrat party have the votes (and two-thirds control in Lansing) to pass whatever it is they want.  Common sense seems to have prevailed in killing Granholm's two-penny-plan and it looks like it's going to kill the concept of any other multi-billion dollar tax hike, too.  But it doesn't look like it'll necessarily be able to completely prevent the Democrats from raising taxes.

    Read on...

    The FREEP reports:

    Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop, R-Rochester, and House Speaker Andy Dillon, D-Redford Township, reported headway in their private discussions. But only 43 days are left to close the deficit though spending cuts or new taxes. On Oct. 1, a new budget year begins, and without a budget, the state could face a shutdown.

    ...But Dillon said he and Bishop might have scored a breakthrough Friday, including a proposal for a tax increase, though no details were given.

    "We've agreed to the size of the deficit," Dillon said. "We reached a deal to get to the finish line both of us could live with. I have a feeling for what he could tolerate and stomach."

    I, for one, hope the legislature has a feeling for what the voters can tolerate and stomach.  And that sure as heck isn't a smaller paycheck so fat cats in Lansing can pad the pockets of their special interest friends through programs like MESSA.  Or through the House Democrats Corrections budget that increases funding for union supervisor's uniform dry cleaning by millions of dollars without putting one more cop on the streets.

    Misplaced priorities over the last five years got us into this mess.  They aren't going to get us out.  

    For his part, the Senate Majority Leader continues to fight a one man war against the big-government lefties.  He's holding the line thus far but as soon as they're ready to come charging through the gates, one would imagine they've got the votes to do it.

    Of course, that begs the question, why haven't they?  Could it have something to do with the fact that tax hikes on the residents of a state enduring a single-state depression could come back to haunt them at the polls next November?  Or spur recalls well before that?  

    Yeah, that could have something to do with it.  Something tells me 56,000 jobs lost last year and another 50,000+ this year doesn't exactly equate to a winning record for the campaign trail.  Imagine what'll happen when that 50,000+ number jumps by another 10,000 next year thanks to House Democrats incessant demands to tax and spend.

    Better news out there this morning on the presidential primary front.  The Detroit News is reporting that Dems are now fully engaged in pushing for a January 15th closed primary.  That would mean no worries about conventions, or caucuses, or Democrats stealing the vote.  But more importantly, that would mean presidential candidates would pay attention to Michigan.

    Michigan would follow the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, provided that no other states leapfrog to an earlier date...

    Greg Bird, a spokesman for House Speaker Andy Dillon, D-Redford, said negotiations were continuing.

    "At this point nothing has been finalized," Bird said, adding he didn't know if the agreement would be reached before Wednesday when the state Senate is tentatively scheduled to vote on legislation setting up the primary.

    Bill Ballenger, editor of the newsletter "Inside Michigan Politics," said that if Michigan holds a primary rather than a caucus or a party nominating convention, the candidates will flock to Michigan.

    "They'll come and they'll have to talk about the issues we want them to talk about," Ballenger said.

    And wouldn't it be nice to have someone in Washington paying attention to Michigan?  Goodness knows we still aren't getting any attention from Senators Stabenow and Levin.  They couldn't be bothered to force a compromise on CAFE standard increases that very well might bankrupt the Big 3 putting tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Michigan jobs in jeopardy.

    Oh, but they found the time to sit down with the Lansing State Journal for an editorial board visit.  And the result?

    Pretty much a fluff piece, which is what one would expect from editorial board meetings with Democrats at the Lansing State Journal.

    But hey, credit where credit is due.  In a twenty paragraph article they managed to fit in ONE quote from someone who doesn't think the Great Society was really all that great.  Said MRP Chairman Saul Anuzis:

    "I'm glad that Debbie Stabenow and Carl Levin are worried about what's going on in China and Iraq," Anuzis said. "I just wish they would spend a little more time worrying about what's going on in Michigan."

    So that's something.  Although you'd think with poll numbers like thes two are pulling down in Washington there might have been a slightly more even handed approach.  A check of the website seems to indicate the paper's editors felt the same way.  To "balance" the piece they included a side-bar noting specifically the Democrat Congresses latest approval numbers.  

    According to a new Zogby / Reuters poll the approval numbers for the Democrat Congress at an "OJ Esque" (Zogby's words) 15%, fueled, largely, by an 18% approval rating among Democrats.

    Eighteen percent among Democrats.  The number is twelve among Republicans and about sixteen with independents.  

    That's low.  Just for the record, that's less than half what George W. Bush pulls down these days.  But you wouldn't know that by talking to them.  The Dem echo chamber is so intent on casting this air of inevitability around the 2008 elections they've completely blinded themselves to what's happening in their own backyard on their own watch.  

    Meanwhile, 85% of voters think they're doing a pretty lousy job.  Oh, but none of those folks are here in Michigan.  We just love our nation-leading 7.2% unemployment rate and 92 cent return on the federal tax dollar.

    < So let me get this straight... | Sak offering phony contrition: Press reports he tells friends the State Trooper is a liar! >
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    Bad party guest (none / 0) (#1)
    by leondrolet on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:31:12 AM EST
    My weekend was supposed to be all fun.

    I went to a Dream Cruise Party in Birmingham and had lots of fun thanks to the great hosts, but still, the guests I talked to talked a lot about the sorry state of Michigan's economy. The host said that his business used to be based in MI and he vacationed in Florida. Now he does most of his business in FL and comes back to MI mostly to visit family and friends. Florida also has no income tax.

    I left that party and went to a party in Waterford. The hosts are upper-middle class who own a beautiful home on a lake, but are worried now about losing their home as their employers are struggling to stay afloat.

    Sunday, I visited a longtime friend who owns a small mortgage company and used to be a home builder but no longer builds due to the economy. He is setting up shop in South Carolina and preparing to shift his business there.

    Maybe it was me, and wherever I was this weekend I discovered discussions of gloom. Or maybe these party hosts are part of the evil "rich" who Granholm and Democrats should pay more taxes.

    Governor, these people are leaving. Some slowly and gradually. Some more quickly. If the legislature and Granholm raise taxes they will ensure the latter.

    Recall 1983...?

    If the Governor doesn't there are six or eight (none / 0) (#2)
    by Nick on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:35:36 AM EST
    House members who'd better.

    Mr Drolet, (none / 0) (#3)
    by PMOTVRWC on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:07:35 PM EST
    not to add to your misery, it isn't just the upper middle class that you partied with this weekend, it is also us lower middle class families that are talking about moving out of state if the dems have their way and pass an increase in taxes.  Yes, it will be harder for us, but we can't take another hit in the pocketbook.  

    It is futile to try and engage with our representatives anymore because they even refuse to answer our letters and e-mails, at least mine has.  I guess they're tired of hearing about how hard the working class has it when they are out partying with God knows who.  (I understand that it is a real downer at parties, sarcasm added.)

    I don't know who the Granholm supporters are (none / 0) (#4)
    by A2 Conservative on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:19:14 PM EST
    I too was partying with people this weekend who weren't too fond of Granholm or of the prospect of raising taxes. There was lots of talk about moving out of the state if it doesn't improve soon. I'd like to be able to say I didn't know one person who supports Granholm, but that wouldn't be true. One of my co-workers is a Granholm supporter, and he's stated that "Granholm is trying to get rid of the auto industry". At that point, I stopped taking him seriously. Although, if that were the case, you'd have to admit she's doing a great job with that. I just don't see how she can think raising taxes is a good idea. She's a failure as an executive. She couldn't possibly have been as bad of a lawyer.

    Wake up Nick (none / 0) (#5)
    by NoviDemocrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 11:36:08 PM EST
    Democrats upset about how the Congress is handling the war in Iraq are not going to vote for Republicans and Republican presidential candidates supporting keeping US troops in Iraq indefinitely. But if you want to deceive yourself into believing that, by all means do so.

    I love Hillary's latest line... (none / 0) (#8)
    by Nick on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 07:54:58 AM EST
    She told the Vets yesterday that the surge "is working" but that we need to cut and run anyways...

    Classic Democrat circa 2007.

    Clueless conservatives (none / 0) (#9)
    by NoviDemocrat on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 09:17:42 AM EST
    Your comments just show how out-of-touch you are with the sentiments of the majority of Americans. I wouldn't be surprised if the surge is working. More troops on the ground provides the US the ability to secure more areas, at least temporarily. Of course, when this was 2003 and people were insisting we needed more troops and Donny Rumsfeld refused to send them, you all stood right behind Rummy and insisted that we didn't need the troops.

    But whether the surge is a "success" or not is irrelevent to most Americans. They're done with Iraq. They don't want another 500 Americans killed or billions of dollars spent on "reconstruction" while we wait for the Iraqis to get their act together. They just want our troops home and be done with the mess that we made over there. We don't want to spend years in Iraq, sending our troops over there to be ground up in sectarian violence, reprisal attacks, etc.

    The irony is that the more successful the surge is, the more of a disaster it will be for Republicans. You all will close ranks behind the President and his refusal to leave Iraq only to discover in 2008 that the American people don't care whether we are "winning" or "losing" in Iraq, they just want the troops home.

    Well if that's what they want (none / 0) (#10)
    by Nick on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 09:29:26 AM EST
    BOY has your party failed to deliver on their campaign promises.

    I'm sure you're prepping a new slate of primary challengers as we speak, right?

    Go for it (none / 0) (#12)
    by NoviDemocrat on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:31 PM EST
    I would love to see the Republicans run on their "we're staying in Iraq" platform. See how that does for you in 2008.

    Four years of fairy tales (none / 0) (#14)
    by NoviDemocrat on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 12:57:29 PM EST
    is what we've gotten from conservatives on Iraq. If you believe them, embrace them. Are you afraid to run on your true beliefs that we should continue to pour US troops and US money down the black hole of Iraq for years to come?

    Last time I checked (none / 0) (#16)
    by NoviDemocrat on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 02:14:46 PM EST
    no one was dying from Granholm's predictions. Can't say the same thing about the rhetoric that came from conservatives about Iraq.

    • I see... by John Galt, 08/21/2007 02:31:18 PM EST (none / 0)
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