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    Michigan goes for Romney and Clinton (with under 65%?!)


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:08:09 PM EST
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    With all of the lower peninsula polls closed now since 8:00 pm folks are starting to make their official calls.  Fox is calling the GOP race for Mitt Romney.

    Exit polling indicates that the biggest issue... THE issue on voters minds was the economy and they thought that Mitt Romney could do a better job bringing us back than John McCain.  Could it be that economic optimism, even if it isn't necessarily rooted firmly in reality, is exactly what we wanted to hear?  Looks that way.

    But these results aren't all that surprising.  Polls have showed Romney in the lead for about a week now.  The two big issues are the turnout and the results in the Dem primary.  Early estimates peg turnout at under a million.  Back in 2000 we turned out 1.3 million and it was a one-party primary (though we could argue whether or not this was a one-party primary too).  

    Then there's Hillary Clinton's performance.  With a full two-thirds of the black vote choosing NO ONE instead of the Governor's chosen candidate she cannot be happy.  Only 15% was required in each congressional district for delegates to have the opportunity to vote for Obama or Edwards (or Kucinich or a space alien) at the Democrat National Convention in Denver.  And you can save the "they stripped our delegates" mumbo-jumbo.  There is approximately zero way that either party declines to seat a single Michigan delegate.

    The results put a serious damper on the Hillary express but they've got to also have Barack Obama and John Edwards kicking themselves.  If they hadn't flipped Michigan the bird they could very well have pulled off a major upset.  But they did flip us the bird.  Again and again.  And only about 300,000 democrats statewide forgave them thus far.

    Then again, back in 2000 only about 160,000 dems were even allowed to vote in their anti-democratic Dem caucuses.  So I guess as far as the left is concerned this is considered "progress."

    < Michigan Republican Primary Prediction | True test of a candidate: Can you convince 55% of voters to support you if given no other choice? >


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    What is funny (none / 0) (#1)
    by Mark Adams on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:33:20 PM EST
    Watching Fox News with Shepherd Smith tonight, they interview the owner of Michigan Liberals.com. He urged Dems not voting for Hillary to vote for Ron Paul, so as to eventually put RP as an independent candidate on the ballet in Nov to steal votes from the Rep candidate in Nov... Which in this Republicans view was an insult to Ind., as RP is, well, not the brightest bulb in the pack.

    • Ron Paul by Phillydilly, 01/16/2008 07:04:32 AM EST (none / 0)
      • I also... by rdww, 01/16/2008 08:42:22 AM EST (none / 0)
      • Sorry by Mark Adams, 01/16/2008 11:25:10 PM EST (none / 0)
    Romney Rocks Macomb (none / 0) (#2)
    by RightMacomb on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 11:02:04 PM EST
    Romney beat McCain 45.4% to 24.7% in Macomb County, where jobs are scarce and help has been needed for sometime.  A clear sign that the message of optimism and hope beat pessimism and despair.

    Interesting split (none / 0) (#3)
    by Republican Michigander on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 11:26:40 PM EST
    I haven't seen all the county numbers in, but it's quite interesting. Romney does well in car country - even the blue collar counties there. (Saginaw, Genesee, Bay) The Tri-County area wasn't close, and Livingston went big for Romney.

    McCain won big Up North.

    West Michigan seemed closer than East Michigan.

    Attention 7% of Michigan Republicans... (none / 0) (#7)
    by rdww on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 09:26:44 AM EST
    John Galt has officially informed you that he DOESN'T WANT YOUR VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN NOVEMBER.
    (Though it IS fun to see how many lies, distortions and insults he can pack into one paragraph.)

    Weak on math (and logic)? (none / 0) (#10)
    by rdww on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:05:24 AM EST
    The results I saw this morning said 6%, and we know some of that was Democrats trying to force the GOP hand. You mean like the "Dems - vote for Mitt to muddy the primary race?"

    And we know that a large number of people claim to "never voted before".  Yes, they can go away too. Or, they can stay, and vote Republican - if not defecated on.

    And we can't forget the percentage of Paultards who claimed (before my statement) they wouldn't vote for any other candidate. Though you provide absolutely zero examples.

    So of that 7% you tried to address, we might be talking about 2%.  I suspect your "day job" is as a government accountant.

    I'm not going to try and convince you to vote for the GOP nominee. Or anyone else, apparently. Hey Nick -- isn't it interesting that I'm the one here ENCOURAGING people to vote Republican?.

    Yes! ALL 6% of Paultards and MoRons... (none / 0) (#15)
    by LX on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:20:15 PM EST
    Please, just go away and stop being a distracting embarrassment to not only yourselves, but also to the Republican Party. Just as in 1988, take ALL of your 431,750 votes (0.47% popular vote) elsewhere. Republicans do not need your vote, contrary to `the good doctor', which welcomes white supremacist campaign money as something noble. Now, please just fade away much like uninvited flatulence dispersed in the wind.

    Ron Paul: Contradictory, amnesic, unelectable.

    http://chip91.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/ron-paul-rants-about-iran-brit-hume-and-romney-smack-him/

    http://www.yoursdaily.com/different_views/the_constitution_for_dummies_i_e_ron_paul_supporters

    http://www.ronpaulexposed.com/index.htm

    H R 2347 - Iran Sanctions Enabling Act.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll765.xml

    `The good doctor' voting `NAY', does the 72-year-old Ron Paul understand who Ahmadinejad is? Even Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Islamic and sworn into office using Thomas Jefferson's Quran, voted `YEA' on the Iranian sanctions.

    Ron Paul says he believes in the U.S. Constitution and smaller government. Good for him. However, those views are cancelled out by his unwillingness to confront the evil of Islamofascism or to even condemn a Holocaust denier. This alone should DISQUALIFY him to be President of the United States, and let us not forget the decades of unexplained Ron Paul newsletters.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

    LX (aka BwaaBwaa)... (none / 0) (#16)
    by rdww on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:58:36 PM EST
    ..another tragic victim of "Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome."  This cruel malady causes severe behavioral derangement in conservatives, compelling them to troll left-wing websites for quotes with which to attack Ron Paul, and even to suggest that The New Republic is anything other than a discredited liberal cesspool for journalistic fraud.  
    Sufferers in terminal stages literally morph into Al Sharpton, ranting about imaginary "racists" and "white supremicists," and sobbing over Tawana Brawley.  Ultimately, RPDS victims turn altogether into liberals, loudly attacking the very conservative values they intially claimed.
    See your doctor....

    Interesting... (none / 0) (#19)
    by John Galt on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 09:05:00 PM EST
    The guy who claims CNN isn't reputable is citing the LA Times.

    The guy who claims posting pdf's posted on TNR is somehow advocating their reputation... is now posting links to disreputable newspapers like the LA Times?

    Apparently they're all disreputable, unless they toss a nible to the Paultards.  Then they're okay.

    I mean come on.  Just a LITTLE consistency?  Please?  Just a smidgeon?

    Coherence...? (none / 0) (#21)
    by rdww on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 09:16:21 AM EST
    "The guy who claims posting pdf's posted on TNR is somehow advocating their reputation... is now posting links to disreputable newspapers like the LA Times?"

    And the LA Times was caught fabricating stories and sources when?  
    Better still, JG, why should we put any stock in the guy who wants 7% of Michigan Republicans to stay home this November?

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